diff --git a/circ/circulation.pl b/circ/circulation.pl
index e453e843ae..45bdd5c864 100755
--- a/circ/circulation.pl
+++ b/circ/circulation.pl
@@ -742,7 +742,7 @@ if ($patron) {
             join       => 'manager',
             '+select'  => [ 'manager.surname', 'manager.firstname' ],
             '+as'      => [ 'manager_surname', 'manager_firstname' ],
-            'order_by' => { -desc => 'me.message_type' },
+            'order_by' => [ 'me.message_type', { -desc => 'me.message_date' }, { -desc => 'me.message_id' } ],
         }
     );
     $template->param( patron_messages => $patron_messages );
diff --git a/members/moremember.pl b/members/moremember.pl
index dd05a28eac..9cf8574e10 100755
--- a/members/moremember.pl
+++ b/members/moremember.pl
@@ -189,7 +189,7 @@ my $patron_messages = Koha::Patron::Messages->search(
         join       => 'manager',
         '+select'  => [ 'manager.surname', 'manager.firstname' ],
         '+as'      => [ 'manager_surname', 'manager_firstname' ],
-        'order_by' => { -desc => 'me.message_type' },
+        'order_by' => [ 'me.message_type', { -desc => 'me.message_date' }, { -desc => 'me.message_id' } ],
     }
 );